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Post by Gabriel Cade on Feb 26, 2011 3:42:21 GMT -5
Hey guys! I can't exactly say I'm happy to be sitting on the jury, but it is what it is and I'm not going to go on and on about that. I'm disappointed that I got so close and failed at the final hurdle, but I did, I can't fix it, and now I get to vote one last time, this time for a winner. I do have a strong front runner right now, but my vote is always up for grabs until the moment I cast it. So far, neither of you have really impressed me in your answers, so how you respond to me now will matter a lot. Earl... I enjoyed talking to you over the course of this game. In the game you amused the hell out of me and outside of it I rather like you. I don't have a whole lot to say to go on about because pretty much everyone else has covered it. Earl, rat, lies a lot, etc., etc.... we all get it so let's move on to some questions: 1. If you had won the Final IC, who would you have taken to the end?
2. When I asked you about question 1 after I was eliminated from the challenge, you told me you hadn't thought of who you would take. It's one of many weak excuses and obvious, unnecessary lies you gave in this game. Pretty much all of your lies were utterly terrible. Was this because you're bad at lying or was it strategy?
3. What lead to your decision to break away from the Original Tiberius alliance, and if you had stayed with us and stayed loyal to the final 5, what would your ideal boot order have been and why?
4. Are you voting with us this week, Earl?? Benry....
You called me a mute and you called me invisible, and that's roughly the extent of our contact in this game, minus our race to -50 karma, which was one of the rare times I bested you. We didn't talk, we didn't get along, and while my vote isn't set in stone you can see where winning my vote would be difficult for you. You're going to have to work for it if you want my parchment to have your name on it... for like the 4th time this game.
I voted to eliminate you 3 times, and you got very lucky that you didn't go home any of those times. For someone who called me a mute, your social game certainly wasn't what brought you here. You gathered votes each time you were vulnerable and one of those times only survived because of a loaned idol. Which brings me to my first question...
1. Explain to me your decisions and strategy during TC the round that Brenda left.
2. Halfway through the merge, you stopped appearing on your alias. What made you assume that you didnt need to use your benryboi account anymore?
3. You said in your answers to one of the questions that your opinion of me and my game changed between the f4 and the f3. I'm curious how you viewed me before that point and what it was that made you change your perception.
4. What's my screenname?
For both of you... 1. What would you have done, in retrospect, to bring your original f2 ally to the end, and do you think you would have won against them?
2. I’m always interested by different strategies and what sorts of things effect the way we play. What factors influenced your decisions to play the ways that you did? How did you plan to plan this game when you first entered?
3. List 3 good qualities and 3 bad qualities of all the jurors as well as yourselves.
4. Finally, are you going to win this game and what votes do you believe you will receive?
Alright guys, that's it from me! Good luck!
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Post by Earl Cole on Feb 26, 2011 12:34:03 GMT -5
1. If you had won the Final IC, who would you have taken to the end?
I would have voted you out and taken Benry to the end. I know my chances of winning a jury vote would have been far greater against Benry then you any day. You had a lot of possible votes on the jury from the Tiberius members, possibly Dreamz Peter or both, and had I backstabbed Benry there is a good chance he very well could hold that against me and that would be another vote in your favor.
2. When I asked you about question 1 after I was eliminated from the challenge, you told me you hadn't thought of who you would take. It's one of many weak excuses and obvious, unnecessary lies you gave in this game. Pretty much all of your lies were utterly terrible. Was this because you're bad at lying or was it strategy?
When you pmed me after your elimination from the challenge it was the worst possible time to respond to a pm. I was right in the middle of the biggest challenge of the game where I was trying to win and guarantee my spot in the finals. By this point it was posting every other minute and I didn't want to get distracted and end up missing a post. I told you I would get back to you after the challenge and let's see who won which wasn't an excuse at all. I was trying to win the challenge first off and see if I would even be in the position to make that decision. I could have always lied there and said I'd vote Benry off and that wouldn't have been smart. You could have forwarded that to him and when he won could have easily had a reason to vote me off. My mind was pretty much made up beforehand of taking Benry with me had I won, but I still would have listened to what you had to say if I had won. Just probably wouldn't have been enough to have me take you to the final, when I know you were gonna win for sure.
3. What lead to your decision to break away from the Original Tiberius alliance, and if you had stayed with us and stayed loyal to the final 5, what would your ideal boot order have been and why?
When I started on Tiberius, I was setup pretty good with Danielle, Katie, and You and thought about just riding out the game with you all to the end. Then we had the tribe swaps and I made some deals with Courtney and Brenda to go to the end with. They gave me solid long term commitments that I was fully confident in and none of you from Tiberius gave me anything for the finals that I could depend on and always said Tiberius to the end. Tiberius to the end meant I could get 5th or 4th and I was going to strive better then that and I felt had I stayed with Tiberius then I wasn't likely going to make the end of the game. I did what I thought would give me the best chance of making the finals and that meant having to go against Tiberius. Should the Tiberius final 5 all made the final 5 I would have done something like this for my boot order... 5th - I would have voted Boo off in this spot. I doubt I would have had the votes to do anything else with You/Danielle/Katie likely also voting him. Boo was always my weakest connection between the 4 of you much of the game where we talked and communicated the very least. It would have made the most sense to just vote him in this spot.
4th - I would have likely went and tried to vote Katie off here. I would have tried explaining to both you and Danielle that Katie was a serious jury threat by being well liked by everybody and would win a jury vote over any of us. 3rd - I would have wanted Danielle to go at this point and of course this is all depending if I won final immunity. She was way too big a threat for the finals where beating her would have been extremely difficult, her social game was much too good where she would prob give great final tribal council answers. I would have preferred taking my chances with you at this point and seen where the chips fall. Finals - Me vs You would have been my ideal finals if I needed to go up against anybody from Tiberius at the end.
4. Are you voting with us this week, Earl??
You should already know the answer to this lol. Yup it's 100% guarantee I'm voting with you and you know I'm good for it
1. What would you have done, in retrospect, to bring your original f2 ally to the end, and do you think you would have won against them?
The only thing differently I think I could have done is made sure Chase voted at the final 8 since that's where things completely fell apart where it was obvious Courtney or Me were next to go. I could have also suggested Chase leave a boot list but I thought he'd vote so that wasn't something I would normally ask of someone to do. The only other thing I could think of that I might have done is tried even harder to flip Danielle or Boo to work with Me/Courtney/Benry at the final 7. I gave it a few shots and it was evident they were not going to flip and don't think there was much else I could have done. If Courtney and Me were in the finals together I feel the vote would have been close, but I do believe I could have won against her.
2. I’m always interested by different strategies and what sorts of things effect the way we play. What factors influenced your decisions to play the ways that you did? How did you plan to plan this game when you first entered?
When I first started this game I wanted to play the heroic role and work with the first alliance I made to the very end which would have been Tiberius. After the swaps things changed for me where I didn't hardly talk to you all anymore and I made other alliances and gotten myself caught up in more so the villain role of making big plays and playing all sides of things. What ended up influencing me playing the way I ended up playing was first off all those crazy prizes and the idols that were lurking around in the game. Those were game changing items and I wanted to do my best to avoid them as all cost. Another factor was just me playing this game for myself and what I thought would be best for me and not any of my alliances or anything else. Sticking with alliances is a great thing and something that should be admired, it's just that not entire alliances can make the finals and eventually you have to do what's best for you and what's going to get you to the end. This might come across as selfish but when you enter a merge situation it's an individual game where it's every person for themself.
3. List 3 good qualities and 3 bad qualities of all the jurors as well as yourselves. Earl - Good (Determined, Strategic, Clever) Bad (Dishonest, Manipulative, Selfish) Benry - Good (Competitive, Tough, Dependable) Bad (Big mouth, Not on game aim, Arrogant) Gabe - Good (Funny, Heroic, Creative) Bad (Conservative, Dependant, Loyal to a fault) Boo - Good (Energetic, Exciting, Funny) Bad (Over opinionated, Too outspoken, Lazy at times) Danielle - Good (Leader, Forgiving, Devoted) Bad (Predictable, Threatening, Too trusting) Katie - Good (Strong, Intelligent, Practical) Bad (Confusing, Controlling, Reluctant) Courtney - Good (Sweet, Loyal, Sincere) Bad (Quiet, Uninterested at times, Distant) Chase - Good (Kind, Smart, Interesting) Bad (Late, Passive, Inefficient at times) Brenda - Good (Charming, Friendly, Smart) Bad (Annoying, Predictable, Indecisive) Peter - Good (Friendly, Careful, Upstanding) Bad (Wild card, Quiet, Easy target) Dreamz - Good (Speaks Up, Entertaining, Opinionated) Bad (Cocky, Rude, Obnoxious) Amber - Good (Passionate, Ethical, Endearing) Bad (Weak, Quiet, Relies on others)
4. Finally, are you going to win this game and what votes do you believe you will receive?
I haven't gotten a great read for how it's looking right now, I feel like it can still go a lot of ways where it's still anyone's game.
Amber/Chase/Katie/Peter/Dreamz/Boo - I feel they are going to likely vote Benry. Brenda/Courtney/Danielle/Gabe - I feel like these are the votes I might end up getting.
I need to get 1-2 votes turned likely to get into the tb from this point on I'd say
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Post by Ben "Benry" Henry on Feb 26, 2011 19:06:49 GMT -5
I'm not sure where our feud began. If it had to do with me calling you a mute/invisible, than I guess it was because of me. I was outspoken at the time, but it was intentional. And as you said, I gathered the votes each time I was vulnerable. Gathering votes each times takes a social game. I may have not had one with you, but the people I did talk with then, (my allies mostly) were obviously loyal enough to keep me around. As for the idol, I helped Chase with one of the clues, but he picked it up. We were going to use the idol depending on who needed it. We were debating voting for Katie or Boo this round. You were already immune, and then suddenly, so were the two of them. This left Danielle as our only option. I initially wanted to scare you guys back by displaying the idol. At first it was a tactic to get you guys to not vote for me. It was only later on until I realized that Danielle was acting fishy. She was clearly going to be staying because of her lack of campaigning. She kept saying she was nervous but she did nothing about it. So I realized she too would likely be safe. This is when I realized for sure that your votes would be going on me to try and flush "my idol." So Chase handed it over and I played it. We were obviously hoping Danielle wouldn't play one so we cast our votes on her. I didn't want to vote for any of them (my alliance) after they just saved me. I think Chase and I tossed around the idea of throwing a vote somewhere else just in case, but we opted not to.Halfway through the merge my alias got blown. So my screenname was out there anyways. I was already on my main account so I didn't feel the need to use it anymore. Before the final 4, and mostly from final 11 to final 6, I thought you were a follower. I thought that you were going to be dragged along to finals (I thought it was a final 3 at the time) where you wouldn't have any moves to back up a win. It's why I approached you that one time and also why I called you invisible and a mute. I wanted you to think you wouldn't win against your alliance, which I didn't think you would, as it would of been hard for me and a few others (including Earl) to vote you. Your challenge performance I noticed getting better throughout the course of the merge, but my perception first changed at like final 5. I found out you and Danielle were super tight and wouldn't vote for eachother. Then at final 4, you won the immunity challenge and I felt threatened going against you in the final 3. (Something I wouldn't of felt early in the merge) Then at final 3, your Rites of Passage really clued me in to how deep in your alliance you were, and all the relationships you had in this game. "GabielCade" or "iamsovrycool" lol Although I think the first is what matters anyways I'd of told Chase to vote or leave a boot list. It's what really screwed us over. I was always afraid that someone would self vote. I should of made sure. I could of also gave him my immunity prize that round, but, the road to finals would of been harder on both of us. We would of needed that immunity to secure ourselves final 4. I think Chase and I had similar games. At the time, he talked more to Tiberius but I was more strong. I think by the time we reached finals I'd of had the edge since I'd of talked to them more and they were annoyed at him. That and the fact I was stronger in challenges, which gives another point to me.I can never truly plan how I'm going to play. I have to assess to surroundings first. I kind of knew I'd go for being the challenge beast. What did surprise me though, is how under the radar I played pre-merge. I'm rarely an under the radar kind of guy. It had to do with the fact that I never went to Tribal Council. But I really didn't want to get involved in any drama early on. I knew that I'd try and play as honest as I could, because I'm aware of the repercussions for someone who constantly backstabs. I made it through the game without ever breaking an alliance. (I'm not counting the Boo one ) That was the way I intended to play. I didn't want to be the guy who betrayed, I wanted to be the one who played a clean game. It's something that's difficult to do, and usually results in some comments about not having enough social effort with the opposing alliance. I did like the way I ended up playing and the role I took on at the merge.
Benry Good: Competitive, Bold, Opinionated Bad: Hot-headed, Too Arguative, Not the best AIM Game
Earl Good: Rational, Doesn't take things personal, Cordial Bad: Liar, Not dependable, Strategy (purposely self voting/lying to get by)
Gabe Good: Funny, Talented, Strong Bad: Too concealed, Hostile, Patronizing
Boo Good: Voiceful, Confident, Forgiving Bad: Lazy (challenges), Arrogant, Touchy
Danielle Good: Talkative, Outgoing, Friendly Bad: Non-committal, Easy to foretell, Paranoid
Katie Good: Smart, Sweet, Daring Bad: Distant, Devious, Fired-up
Courtney Good: Powerful, Strong-minded, Captivating Bad: Impulsive, Demanding, Villainous
Chase Good: Kind, Loyal, Caring Bad: Indecisive, Sensitive, Forgetful (self-vote),
Brenda Good: Flirty, Charming, Exciting Bad: Quick to upset, Extreme, Domineering
Peter Good: Humorous, Doesn't hold grudges, Atypical Bad: Silent, Confusing, Unnoticeable
Dreamz Good: Entertaining, Humorous, Fun Bad: Mean, Loud, Egotistical
Amber Good: Loyal, Good-natured, Sincere Bad: Quiet during the game, Presumptuous, Dramatic
Oh boy this question. I think I have good odds at winning, but I'm not that sure where it's heading. I am pretty confident in my game but I can't predict the votes right now because it seems like it could go either way. As of right now, I would say:
I feel like I will for sure have Amber & Chase I think Earl will have Gabe & Dreamz (And Sash if it ties 5-5) I think I might have Courtney & Katie based off questions Brenda and Danielle I can see going either way, but I think Brenda liked my response. Boo I would of said Earl, but he said he was leaning towards voting me in our last conversation. Peter I would say me since Earl and him don't seem to get along, but then again Peter and I barely talked. Basically, quite a few Jurors have expressed that they liked my response, which led me to believe they could vote for me...but that's a total guess. They could of just said that and changed their mind.
Thanks Gabe!
Mood: Unsure
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