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Post by Chase Rice on Feb 25, 2011 4:59:06 GMT -5
you were Cirie  |
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Post by Earl Cole on Feb 25, 2011 9:26:21 GMT -5
Your questions are up next for me and since I never watched Lost might take me a little while longer.
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Post by Andria "Dreamz" Herd on Feb 25, 2011 12:10:19 GMT -5
dam u guys are slow man. is it cuz im black!?
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Post by Earl Cole on Feb 25, 2011 14:06:37 GMT -5
nah we're both black that ain't the reason
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Post by Earl Cole on Feb 25, 2011 14:26:37 GMT -5
Earl, the only person after the Final28 that I never added to my buddy list. We had a total of ZERO conversations all game. Legit, know and knew nothing about you. People say you're a shitty liar, but to me, you're just a shitty social player. Do ya dig!
LOL. Did you also realize we were on the same tribe for a total of 24 hours during the game? I'm not one of these cross tribe communicators that is going to go out of their way to build a bunch of useless alliances when you have no idea if you'll even meet up later. I can play the game with people on my tribe and work out things there thank you very much. If I have a shitty social game yours is even worst, you knew you were on the chopping block come merge and didn't even try to talk with me.
Question Time:
Both:
1.) Rank each Juror (and you two) in order from who deserves to win the most to who deserves to win the game the least. And state why you placed people where you did please.
1) Earl - I played this game from a strategy stand point where that's what I relied on the very most. I won zero individual immunity challenges and left myself open the entire merge and still managed to make the finals. I was the only person in the merge to not have their name written down on the parchment. When big moves needed to be made to ensure I was in the exact perfect position I wanted to be in, I went and voted out threats to my game like Spencer pre merge and Danielle towards the end of the game to make a clear path for myself to the end.
2) Benry - He won nearly every immunity challenge in the game and the ones he lost, he only lost by a hair. He went to the grotto and was able to obtain items there that he used to help allies advance further in the game. He was able to sense when he was in trouble and at the final 9 obtained Chase's help with an idol to stay safe as a lot of votes were coming his way otherwise he would have left. He played smart and used his head in the game to make positive decisions where he would be at the very end.
3) Danielle - Played a solid social game probably one of the better ones I've seen in a long while and played well with the challenge and strategy part of the game. She was clearly the front runner to win the game at the time she was voted out and was voted out because she was such a threat for the win. She had a firm grasp of her Tiberius tribe and was their leader for the majority of the game.
4) Katie - Solid in the challenges and was well liked by mostly everyone. She went to the grotto often and accumulated a lot of rewards and used them effectively to shift the direction the game was going. She stepped up and protected all her allies at the final 9 tribal council and that earned her a lot of points with a jury should she have made the end.
5) Gabe - He put himself into the right alliance in this game and had the right core alliance to get himself to the end. When he needed immunity in the later rounds, he was able to come through and win back to back challenges to keep himself safe and secure. He was close to winning the game and just needed a win at the final challenge, just didn't happen for him.
6) Brenda - She was well liked by about every single person in the game and seemed to possess a lot of power at certain stages in the game since she was never targeted. She had a good social game and had solid strategic skills to further herself along, she ended up idoled out by just a single vote otherwise she could have gotten a lot further and possibly been the winner.
7) Courtney - She started on a tribe that was complete chaos between people being removed to making enemies. She had no allies from there afterwards, but was able to turn her game around getting herself into some solid alliances. She fought hard in the game and gave it everything she had and even knowing she wasn't the leader of the alliance she was set up nicely to make a crack at the finals if she made it past the final 7 vote.
8) Chase - He put himself into a solid merge alliance where he was setup fairly nicely for the end of the game. He was friendly, social, loyal, and overall smart player. He helped out Benry with an idol to keep him safe at final 9, which was a good move considering otherwise Benry would have left that round. He had an opportunity to stay in the game and battle it out in a tb challenge had he voted and there is no telling how well he could have done.
9) Boo - I'd have him higher, but his challenge performance over the course of the game was lacking where he did very little or nothing at all (example final 4 and final 5 challenge). He also gets quite emotional and heated when something doesn't go his way and upsets a lot of people with his board posting rants. Aside from that he played well strategical, the problem was he should have seen that Gabe wasn't going to the finals like he original thought would happen.
10) Dreamz - A lot of the drama he caused ended up pissing a lot of people off and made that target on his back get larger and larger. When the merge happened it was obvious it was Courtney vs Dreamz and he should have made sure he was on the majority side of the vote instead of what he though would happen at very worst a tie, when in fact a prize was the difference.
11) Peter - He had 2 chances in the game and was immune quite a few of the rounds leading up to the merge, I don't think he played well as he's capable of playing. He joined up with Tiberius which was an okay idea, problem is he alienated most the other players when they actually had the majority.
12) Amber - Lacked the right alliances and right allies to make it to the merge, should have likely pushed herself hard as hell in one of the last three pre merge challenges to guarantee she's be in the merge and then she'd be in a decent situation.
2.) Compare each Juror (and you two) to an actual player from Survivor. Once again, please state why you did what ya did.
1) Earl (Rob C) - I always played the game from different angles and was always thinking what was the best strategic move for myself to make. I'd play both sides and position myself in between things where I was the swing vote at certain times and kept the target off my back. This was much like Rob C's game where he the nice under control villain constantly switching around alliances, voted off people he said he was aligned with, and he didn't win much of anything either besides 1 individual immunity and was right there at the end.
2) Benry (Ozzy) - Benry was super good in challenges, might be one of the best challenge performances I've seen from someone in a game in a long time. He also made some good strategic decisions and stayed loyal to his alliance. Reminded me a lot of Ozzy since Ozzy was so deadly in challenges in his seasons and stayed loyal to his alliances and made some strategic decisions. To top if off soon as Ozzy wasn't immune in Micro he was always targeted much like Benry in the merge.
3) Gabe (Stephen) - I always thought Danielle and Gabe were exactly like JT and Stephen in Tocantins. They had a strong partnership early in the game and planned on going to the end together. Their alliance was very strong and was almost near impossible to break up. I always thought Gabe resembled Stephen in a lot of ways from personality and the bonds he made within his alliance during the game.
4) Boo (Shane) - During the entire game Boo was lacking in challenges, he would get upset and worked up on the boards when something didn't go exactly his way. This reminds me a lot of Shane in Panama where he didn't win anything and was always worked up about everything during the game to the point where people thought he was crossing the line several times.
5) Danielle (Tina) - I always saw Danielle with a killer social game the entire time which would have made her near impossible to beat against anyone facing the jury. Tina from outback never won anything and faced off against someone at final tribal council that won nearly everything, the difference was she had great social skills that translated her into winning that season over Colby.
6) Katie (Parvati) - Katie was super competitive in the challenges and held several grotto rewards. She took the initiative to change the game by protecting her alliance with all her rewards at final 9. Reminds me a lot of Parvati from HvsV where Parvati took it upon herself at the first merge tribal council to protect her allies by giving them idols to oust JT to cease control of the game and won quite a few immunities.
7) Courtney (Natalie White) - Courtney wasn't the most powerful person in the alliance but she was positioned in a good spot where nobody would have targeted her had the alliance prevailed and made all the way. This is much like how Natalie in Samoa wasn't the person in charge, but played a good overall game where she won and evening knowing Courtney didn't win she would have stood a good chance had she made the finals.
8) Chase (James Clement) - Chase made a blunder in this game where he self voted and cost himself the game, aside from that he was well liked by everyone inside his alliance and was a good guy. He was a strong competitor but maybe didn't perform well as he liked in challenges. Reminds me of James where he was well liked and considered a strong competitor even knowing he never won much and he made the blunder of leaving a game with 2 idols.
9) Brenda (Laura) - I always saw Brenda as holding lot of power in the game through alliances and her social game. She didn't have many flaws and caught an unfortunate break. Reminds me a lot of Laura from Samoa where she seemed to control her alliance and was the most powerful player on the Galu side, then caught that the bad break on the tie revote.
10) Peter (Burton) - Not many people get 2 chances in the game but Peter did and he made the most of the opportunity. Reminds me a lot of when Burton reentered the game, was able to make it little ways in the merge but when he thought things were in his favor they were pulled out from under him.
11) Dreamz (Randy) - Dreamz was always vocal about everything in the game, wasn't afraid to say anything and had the constant war with Courtney over the course of the game. This was much like Randy from Gabon where he didn't give a crap what he said even knowing it annoyed others and had several ranted fights with Crystal.
12) Amber (Sydney) - Much like Sydney from Tocantins, Amber was a pre merge boot that just didn't have the right alliances and didn't win enough tribal challenges to carry her to merge. She relied on strong players and didn't take the initiative herself in the game, much like Sydney should she have made merge it would have been a different game and stood a chance.
3.) How is it smart to target a dude whose never been to the Grotto when literally everybody else has? Look what those prizes did to ya'll during the game. Was it smart targeting me, or just sheer bloodthirst?
I hadn't been to the grotto at that point pal, know the feeling. You were my main target coming into the merge for several reasons, it was smart from my point of view since there was an actual strategy behind it. You created a ton of board drama I didn't care for, you were against Courtney who I was allied with, we had zero communication in the game, and I wanted to keep the Tiberius option always open for working with them again should I ever feel the actual need to. So I needed to remove both You and Peter going into the final 9 for my plan to work. Sure they had a bunch of rewards but we had a few up our sleeve as well and had Chase not self voted we might have still been fine and controlled the rest of the game. If we should have done anything differently, then it would have been voting Katie instead of Peter, but like I said I wanted that Tiberius option open just in case.
4.) Compare each Juror (and you two) to a character from Lost. Please state why ya do what ya do. I'm the biggest Lost nerd of them all other than gai Peter and spanky Gabe, so this question matters a lot lot lot lot.
I've never watched Lost and I'll do the best I can with these
1) Earl (Ben) - Ben is the manipulative leader and he gets by a lot of situations. Reminds me of how I'm manipulated myself through the game and gotten to the finals without any individual immunity protection.
2) Benry (Saywer) - One of the main tough characters out there that gets into a lot of fights, Benry was physical in this game where he was tough in the challenges and owned most of them.
3) Gabe (Richard) - Good overall guy with heroic qualities and 2nd in command of things. Fits Gabe well where he was a hero in the game and I always saw him as next in line of Tiberius after Danielle.
4) Boo - (Desmond) - Ends up in a lot of odd confusing situations, I found this to be similar to Boo where he would sometimes not do the immunities or give a lashing out on the boards.
5) Danielle (Jack) - One of the main characters of the show, def hero and tries to control situations. I feel this works for Danielle where she has heroic qualities and during the game tried to lead and control her alliance and certain situations.
6) Katie (Sayid) - Awesome person that has a practical approach on things, reminds me of Katie since she was usually always pretty awesome and used her head in the game to make things happen.
7) Courtney (Claire) - Sweet and cheerful where it's hard to not like and respect her and that's how I felt with Courtney during this entire game and liked her a lot the moment I met her.
8) Chase (Daniel) - The nice guy that does things for the greater good at the time, I always saw Chase as a nice friendly guy in the game that did good like help Benry out with an idol.
9) Brenda (Hurley) - The awesome person that everyone seems to love and respect although have poor luck at the same time, I felt that's how Brenda was in the game where then wasn't anything really negative about her and she caught a bad break with an idol played against her.
10) Peter (Jin) Distant guy that is separated by language barrier kinda isolated at times, I felt like Peter was distant at times and isolated himself maybe a little too much.
11) Dreamz (Locke) - The insane survivalist who believes in all this mysticism and stuff and thinks the island talks to him, reminds me in a way of Dreamz in the game with all the drama and things that he's said over the course of the game.
12) Amber (Boone) - He's not the most popular character mainly because he's the first one killed, much like Amber since she was booted pre merge and was the first one to join the jury.
5.) Why is NATALIE smarter than TOM?
I don't see one smarter then the other, to me they are equally as intelligent.
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Post by Ben "Benry" Henry on Feb 25, 2011 17:46:15 GMT -5
Benry, you betrayed me and switched sides. I was the only person other than Earl once merge came that had NEVER been to the Blue Grotto and yet you fools all come after me. After all I did for you pre-merge on our other tribe, well, I feel like you didn't care. Me, Boo, and Katie controlled our old tribe, and we could've voted you out, but we went at Ami instead. You owed Dr. Dre your soul, and you paid it back by voting me out, someone who had shit luck all game and never even been to the Grotto once.
#2. [Danielle] She was the most likely candidate from the opposite alliance to win the game. She was the most liked person in my eyes, because of her social game. She was all up on that - she really put time in getting to know someone and not always jumping into conversations regarding the game. She couldn't vote for three Tribal Council's and never needed to sweat it. She kept a good relationship with almost everyone.
#3. [Katie] I've stated it before, but if it wasn't her and Danielle, but anyone else in her alliance, she would of had my vote. She made some bold moves for her own game and for her alliance. She protected all of them at final 9 and it was because of her they got the majority. She gave her alliance the much needed leverage after losing Peter and Dreamz. If it wasn't for the eChallenge, I have no doubt she'd make final 4 or 3.
#4. [Earl] He played both sides for the longest time. It may not of been a good way to please a Jury, but it's a sure fire way to make your way safely though Tribal Council. It did keep his name off the parchment and the other players from my alliance were targeted first.
#5. [Gabe] He would of been a lot lower on my list if you asked me to rank at final 4. But at final 3, I saw a side to him that I've never witnessed. He was a lot more closely aligned to his alliance than I had realized. By his Rites of Passage, he was playing this game more than I knew. He was also competition for myself in the challenges. Although, I think he would of needed to really sell it if he made Final Tribal Council with an ally of his.
#6. [Courtney] She was the self-entitled bitch of the season. She made herself appear as a huge target for her competitiveness. She and I both displayed ourselves as threats and candidates to win the game, but she was unable to hang in there. The other side was focused on getting rid of her the first chance they had. She was able to make it down to the final 7, which was one round short of a probable final 4 for her.
#7. [Brenda] She had a very rough game, because from what I watched, she was nearly always in minority situations. She really had to fight to stay in this. Apparently she was on the outs in New Livy, then when she got swapped again, she was on the losing Suetonius side. That brought her to the merge where she had to yet again recruit numbers. She then fell victim to an idol, and if she hadn't, I think she could of replaced Earl's spot.
#8. [Boo] I viewed Boo to be the leader of his alliance. He was very adamant about the Tiberius 4 making the end game together. I think he would of been out first in that scenario, which makes him lower than them all, but he was able to survive until the final 4. He admittedly didn't put as much effort into the challenges in the game. And as someone who loves competing, I'd of wished he had more if I was on the Jury. Regardless, I think he stood a great shot to actually win because of the leader image he had. However, I think he would of had a hard time getting votes from people in my alliance.
#9. [Chase] The self-voting out at a crucial vote is what makes him this low. Chase was playing a very strong game. He was true to me in this game and had good relationships with the Tiberius people. I still believe it was better for his own game, as well as mine, to leave that group. (Because they were obviously a lot more closely knit together) However, he took hate for it and I didn't realize it would be that bad for him on a personal level. But he probably would of had to work hard on convincing Tiberius to vote for him.
#10. [Dreamz] He had an over the top negative personality, and that would definitely haunt him in finals. However, his presence was well known in the game so he could of won over the more unnoticed people. I think he was playing for fun and not to win the game, because he didn't care to yell at players in a personal matter.
#11. [Peter] He wasn't strongly aligned to anyone, apparently. He was always on the bottom of the totem pole and he was an easy scapegoat. It didn't seem likely that anyone from his group would jump to give him a Grotto prize, so he fell victim to my alliance. The fact he made merge after all the drama he had on his original tribe deserves some kudos at the least.
#12. [Amber] She didn't make the merge, so the dynamics would be entirely different had she done so. I'm sure if she lasted one round more she'd of lasted a brady bunch more. But because she didn't, there isn't anything to go off of.
[Benry] ~ Tom Westman: Tom was viewed as a leader, like myself. He also dominated the Immunity Challenges like me. I picked him because I was trying to think of someone who was an obvious head to an alliance combined with strong challenge performance. I think Tom also tried to play the game with as much integrity as he could, which included being honest as he could. However, some times he had to resort to deceit (Gregg vote for him Dreamz vote for me) for the better of his game.
[Earl] ~ Sash Lenahan: Sash was always trying to wiggle his way into any group and was playing both sides. So much so that he pissed everyone off. I think Sash played like a snake and Earl as well. With people talking to Sash, the look on his face just screamed sketchy. I think Earl's gameplay mirrors that, with the lies he spewed. Both of their strategies allowed them to make it to Final Tribal Council.
[Gabe] ~ Brett Clouser: I think this is the perfect person for Gabe, in my eyes. Brett was invisible in the EDIT of the season, but as it turns out, he was actually a very strong player in the Galu tribe and was one challenge away from winning the game. Both of them were strong in challenges and each of their wins was a needed one at the time. Gabe was very deep and secure in an alliance, much like Brett, and was able to become the last target.
[Boo] ~ Russell Hantz: His attitude is kind of similar to Boo's. Often I called Boo arrogant, and I'm sure that had to do with how the came was working out for him. Russell was very proud of his gameplay in both of his seasons. I think Boo is more similar to Heroes vs Villains Russell, because that Russell was actually in the bottom of his main alliance. (The Parvati-Danielle-Russell one) Boo also didn't worry himself about Jury votes from my alliance, much like Russell never worried about Jury votes at all. Both were clearly strong and strategic players.
[Danielle] ~ J.T. Thomas: He had a very good social game and he was the most likely person to win the game form the very start. Early on, I noticed Danielle to be a huge candidate to win this game. J.T. was also generally liked by just about everyone. Danielle didn't have any issues as far as her social game went. I think she could of easily swept the Jury votes like J.T. did because of her social game.
[Katie] ~ Parvati Shallow: Her one defining move in this game was the Tribal Council she whipped out prizes. It reminded me of Parvati pulling out two idols in Heroes vs Villains. I even said it at the time. Parvati was also a challenge threat in that season, and Katie showed she was strong despite never winning one. Despite a lie to me, and vote torwards me, she had this way of making me like her. Parvati has that charm that keeps her around despite being an obvious threat.
[Courtney] ~ Jerri Manthey: From the beginning of this game, Courtney embraced the role of a Villainous. Jerri was the first Black Widow in Survivor. Both of them were disliked by the opposite alliance and were a target for a long time. Basically, both of them made it a lot farther than anyone thought they would.
[Chase] ~ Chase Rice: I think he truly played like the character he selected. He really played with his heart, and made a decision that some may view as scatter-brained. (Jumping from Livy to Suetonius) I think I was like the real Brenda to Chase, except this time he could protect me.
[Brenda] ~ Natalie Bolton: I think she was very flirty and the way she acted reminded me of Natalie. While she wasn't about eating men in the game of Survivor, she was about eating men in the game of life. Had Brenda not been idoeld out, I think she would of made it just as far as Natalie. (I don't relate the edit of Natalie Bolton to Brenda at all)
[Peter] ~ Phillip Sheppard: While we haven't seen much of him, since there has only been two episodes...we do know one thing - he's out there. Peter's Jury question is very bizarre. :x Also, Phillip was on the bottom of his tribe, like Peter was. But he was still kept around.
[Dreamz] ~ Randy Bailey: The personality, the attitude, the comments all match up. He got into fights constantly and made it clear who he was with and who he was against. (Like Randy firmly sticking to the Onions alliance and opposing Crystal/Sugar aka Courtney)
[Amber] ~ Kelly Czarnecki: A pre-jury boot who could never seem to find an alliance that'd stick. She lost Paloma (in this case Spencer) and then wound up in Crystal's crew because of a tribe swap. (Courtney in this case) She was then dumped by them like Kelly was, even though they seemingly were working together.Targeting you had to do with several reasons: the obvious being that you and Courtney would never clique. That battle was going to end one way or another, and I actually had an alliance with her so I didn't want to see her leave at that point. The fact you never went to the Grotto was also a reason why you wouldn't pull any prizes. You scrambled in the last minutes of Tribal Council, because it became known you were getting votes, and had that been anyone else who had went to the Grotto - they could of used a prize. It was a safe move and it took out one of the game's biggest personalities.I've never actually watched Lost, but my family loved it. So this is going to be difficult (I much rather compare to Gilligan's Island), but here it goes.
Benry [Jack] He was the main character and leader. Since I'm attempting to win the game, ima compare myself to the main guy. I was a leader in my alliance like Jack was a leader of the plane crash Survivors.
Earl [Ben] Ben pissed people off, and I compare that to Earl angering the opposite alliance with some lies. Ben Linus lied about pretty much anything, which is unnecessary. With Earl, it was his lies to the Tiberius side.
Gabe [Man in Black] He was not very noticed for the majority of the show, but he did a lot of work under cover. This can relate to Gabe and how my side didn't really feel he was a threat only to find out he was.
Boo [Sawyer] He was another leader, which would be the opposite of myself. He had a sense of arrogance and that can be compared to the fact Saywer is a "confidence man." Definitely confident in himself and his game.
Danielle [Juliet] She's a fertility doctor, and a doctor has to be someone who is good with patients. Danielle was good with her social game and chatter, so the relation is that they are both good and like people.
Katie [Claire] She was a sweet girl, but with a dangerous side. She had a wild side and went "feral" and I can compare that to her bold moves and her challenge performance. But on the outside, she seemed innocent.
Courtney [Ana Lucia] She embraced being a bitch, much like Courtney. Courtney was never one to take any crap and neither was Ana Lucia.
Chase [Hurley] He played with his heart, much like how Hurley has a heart of gold. I think making decisions was hard for him. He was pretty self-less and I relate that to Chase giving me the Hidden Immunity Idol.
Brenda [Kate] Kate is a very strong minded and flirtatious woman. This is Brenda to a T in this game. She had a relationship/attreaction with myself (Jack) and used her charms to help her.
Peter [Faraday] He's a bit out there and eccentric. He took more of a backseat role, and that can be related to Peter who wasn't the center of attention.
Dreamz [Michael] He was the over the top negative persona. He didn't mind being an a$$hole. Basically, a villain.
Amber [Libby] She died early and didn't last as long as the rest. This can relate to Amber and the fact she didn't make the merge.Because she's prettier and has better taste in Survivor winners. 
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Post by Andria "Dreamz" Herd on Feb 26, 2011 0:12:26 GMT -5
good answer on the LOST one, Benry!! michael rules. both of you comparing me to RANDY is very MEH though since TOM is already RANDY  |
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Post by Boo Bernis on Feb 27, 2011 1:37:23 GMT -5
Earl what does Gabe not making finals have ANYTHING to do with my gameplay?  |
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Post by WHAAA on Feb 27, 2011 14:12:35 GMT -5
7) Courtney (Claire) - Sweet and cheerful where it's hard to not like and respect her and that's how I felt with Courtney during this entire game and liked her a lot the moment I met her.
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Post by Boo Bernis on Feb 27, 2011 15:23:00 GMT -5
And at comparing me to Russell Hantz, Benry! *writes Benry to win* |
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