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Post by Courtney Yates on Feb 23, 2011 21:32:40 GMT -5
 Courtney Yates ~ Juror #6
Congrats on making it to the finals.I am proud of you two. Both of you have played the game very well and very different. I am into this vote and I though I knew what I was going to do, but after reading both of your opening speeches I am torn.
Benry, you where a strong physical competitor in this game, and I find that way of playing is hard. You tend on becoming a threat very fast, yet you still made the finals. Good job on you.
Earl, you took the lay back and observe style. You looked at your options and you made moves to further you into this game, which I commend. You, not winning any Individual Immunity Challenge, must have been hard getting to where you are.
Lets move into some questions.
Both: Lets just play a little game right now. Lets say that our alliance was in the final 5. Brenda, Chase, Earl, Benry, and myself. In your perfect game tell me the order that you would have wanted to be voted out. Also tell me how you would make this happen [How you would get them voted out numbers wise] and why you wanted them out at that point.
Now I want you to go through the jury members [Amber, Dreamz, Peter, Brenda, Chase, Courtney, Katie, Danielle, Boo, and Gabe] and tell us their flaw(s)
Lets move into some individual questions.
Benry, during this game, I had this feeling that I could not fully trust you, I know how you play, and it worries me. I always though that you would bring anyone to the finals over me, so I always tried to distance myself. Now, where you ever in this game going to dupe me?
Earl, I came ready to write your name down to win this game, but then I read that you lied to everyone in this game, multiple times.. That threw me off. I never once lied to you, I was ready to go to the finals with you, and I though the feelings was mutual. After reading that you purposely self voted made me question your game play and loyalty. Tell me, what was your plan with me?
Now this vote is going to be hard for me because I liked you both a lot, and both of your opening speeches makes me have a lot of thoughts about not wanting to vote you. So your last goal is convince me why I should vote for you.
Good luck to both of you, and may the best man win! |
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Post by Andria "Dreamz" Herd on Feb 23, 2011 21:38:21 GMT -5
way to choose like the most illegible colors ever
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Post by Courtney Yates on Feb 23, 2011 22:02:44 GMT -5
He's in love with me.
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Post by Boo Bernis on Feb 23, 2011 22:03:42 GMT -5
Sorry deleted the post... :-\ I just highlighted it to read!  |
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Post by Ben "Benry" Henry on Feb 24, 2011 20:14:32 GMT -5
Benry, you where a strong physical competitor in this game, and I find that way of playing is hard. You tend on becoming a threat very fast, yet you still made the finals. Good job on you.  If the 5 of us made final 5, I assume Chase and I would of kept our idol - therefore it'd have to be used against the Suetonius 3some. I would of preferred Earl out first, as we had the least amount of communication before being pushed together in the alliance. I figure I'd use my immunity reward, Chase would play the idol and we'd vote Earl. At final 4 Chase and I would vote for Brenda and tie against whomever you/Brenda voted. Chase and I had talked about bringing Danielle to final 6 if we wanted to make a move against the alliance. But, at final 3 I'd take Chase to the finals if I won immunity. This of course is assuming Chase would agree to all this. I knew we'd be two votes though. Anyways, that would of been my ideal boot order from our 5some: Earl, Brenda, Courtney, Chase than myself. It had to do with my relationships with you all. I knew what kind of game you (Courtney) were playing and that you'd have a lot of support form the Jury, sans Dreamz lol. You embraced the role of a Villainous. So it's possible I'd of kept Brenda. I trusted you two the same but I knew you had finals alliances with pretty much everyone but Chase.
FLAWS
Amber- It's hard to think of a flaw for her, as I don't know what exactly got her out. I guess she needed to be more social and probably should of stuck with Courtney's side at the time.
Dreamz- His biggest flaw was obviously his personality. While the Hosts probably enjoyed him, it definitely turned off a lot of people. He wasn't playing to win, he was playing to have fun in my eyes.
Peter- I would say communication, because for me personally, we barely talked. He assumed New New Livy would stick together, which wasn't the best assumption since there was two swaps before that so relationships were all over the place. I would also say sticking with the Tiberius alliance. He just made himself one of them.
Brenda- Not trying in the immunity challenge the round she left. She told me she didn't give it her all. Being idoled out, she really didn't have much defense.
Chase- His biggest flaw was obviously self-voting. It ruined his own game and made it harder on the rest of us. It could of been prevented but that's what got him out.
Courtney- Her biggest flaw was making herself known to be a Queen like player. Time and time again she told me that if someone crossed her, they'd go home. I think it's what made her such a big target from the other side.
Katie- Her biggest flaw would obviously be being busy lmao. I thought for sure she'd beat Boo. Aside from that, you can't flaw her game because she didn't get "voted out", so she didn't do anything wrong.
Danielle- Her biggest flaw was definitely being too honest towards the end of the game. I tried and tried to get her to agree to deals but she brushed them off because she knew she couldn't cooperate with them. It just made me know that I had to vote her out.
Boo- His biggest flaw was being my nemesis!!!! jk lol. His biggest flaw was actually sticking to his alliance. Because as it turns out, I found out he'd of been cut at 4th place. Although even if he jumped ship, I can't say his placement would of been any better lol.
Gabe- His biggest flaw was not talking to my side more? Even if he made finals I was going to have a tough time voting for him (Over Katie, Danielle, and Boo) - which I'm sure he'll have a tough time for voting me - because I didn't really see him as a threat until late in the game. I was surprised to see what a player he was and how closely aligned he was to his allies. but I guess Jury votes would of been his problem.Throughout this game, you were always in my top 3 allies. However, I knew you had a finals alliance with Earl because you told me...and I knew you and Brenda were obviously tight. Which I thought you could of picked over me. The way you presented yourself to me made me not want to be in the finals with you. (Being very picky about who we voted and how you were very boisterous about running the show) And you took out people I cared for like Amber. (Or people I had decent relationships with: Spencer and Sash) So I always thought you were trying to weaken me xD, or not care about my sway in those people. Despite that, it depends on who the final 3 was. Basically: Chase -> Courtney -> Brenda -> Earl. Brenda and you were kind of the same, but you had the edge for my loyalty. (It'd be even more difficult if Amber made merge cuz she'd be right up there next to Chase) I would of taken you to finals over Earl out of loyalty. I think you should vote me for being the biggest threat who didn't get taken out. I was playing a lot more straight up than my opponent. You were proud of being a threat, so I think you'd appreciate my style of gameplay and that leadership role we both took on. I was loyal to you, I have no idea what would of happened - but after Chase left you were obviously my number 1 ally. I dominated the challenges and put a lot of effort into them, they weren't easy. Competing in the endurances were HORRIBLE but I did it for my game. I cared about winning so I hope you vote for me. 
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Post by Brenda Lowe on Feb 24, 2011 20:59:49 GMT -5
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Post by Courtney Yates on Feb 24, 2011 21:19:12 GMT -5
Thanks Benry!
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Post by Earl Cole on Feb 25, 2011 0:05:12 GMT -5
Both: Lets just play a little game right now. Lets say that our alliance was in the final 5. Brenda, Chase, Earl, Benry, and myself. In your perfect game tell me the order that you would have wanted to be voted out. Also tell me how you would make this happen [How you would get them voted out numbers wise] and why you wanted them out at that point.
5th - I'd try and have voted out Chase in this spot. I would have likely gotten Me, You, and Brenda on board and got it done that way. Benry and Chase were close allies and there was no way those 2 were going to vote each other and I wouldn't have wanted them both in the final 4 and possibly find myself in a tb situation next.
4th - I'd of voted out Benry here. I had made final 3 deal with Brenda and Courtney and would have sought it through to the very end. Benry was a mad competitor too and if he wasn't around my chances of winning the final immunity challenge would have been clearly in my favor.
3rd - This is all banking on the fact that I won immunity, if I did then Brenda would have been my vote. She would have been rather difficult to defeat in a final 2 situation and I had promised Courtney I wouldn't vote for her and would take her to the final 2 if I had the choice and def would have.
Finals - This would have consisted of Me vs Courtney like I originally wanted since way back on Suetonius.
Now I want you to go through the jury members [Amber, Dreamz, Peter, Brenda, Chase, Courtney, Katie, Danielle, Boo, and Gabe] and tell us their flaw(s)
Amber - She seemed way too quiet because when I talked to her either she said very little or nothing at all. She needed a better social game and to make better alliances since the ones she had obviously didn't work out.
Dreamz - The guy got on the nerves of a lot of people during the game and caused drama that was unnecessary. He should have concentrated more on his game strategy instead of causing causing drama which was only going to irritate people and make himself a much bigger target.
Peter - He got voted out twice and likely needed a better overall strategy then what he was using. He appeared way quiet at the merge when I attempted to talk with him and I'd say he probably needed to open up a little more and say more then he was at the time.
Brenda - Needed better judgment instead of trusting a situation that was highly risky and not voting Chase instead of Danielle. I tried to warn her that Danielle prob had an idol as Katie wouldn't leave her open and she decided on taking a risk instead of preventing the idol out disaster.
Chase - I'd say the self vote at final 8 was easily his biggest flaw since had he voted, then there was an opportunity at the tb challenge to stay in the game instead of self voting himself out. Aside from that it appeared he was missing on aim quite a bit, I remember a few people mentioning he's never around or rarely around and that likely made him a top target early merge.
Courtney - Taking more of a leadership role in the alliance at times. I remember her saying she was frustrated how Benry and Brenda were trying to switch the votes around at times and should have stepped in more and voiced her opinion more if she didn't like it.
Katie - Not being selfish enough and keeping the rewards for herself. That was 3 rounds she could have kept herself safe, I will also throw in the inability of not advancing through the echallenge. I know she's a mad poster and I'll never understand how she couldn't get enough posts to get past Boo on this one.
Danielle - The whole telling the person they are being voted out. This came at a price a couple times in the game, like on the Kelly C vote when she told her and that backfired and received her vote. Then when Sash was being targeted, she told him he was next and also that she wish she'd be voting out Courtney instead. Created major problems where she almost left the game and should have been little wiser how she handled those situations.
Boo - Easily he was the weakest of any of the jurors in the challenge area. He should have put in more effort on those, it was annoying I'm sure to mostly everyone associated with this game to see him do very little or nothing at all. I know he can pull his weight better in those then he showed.
Gabe - He could have offered himself more to the other side around the merge and made a few extra deals. I thought he did well overall in the game. The main flaw for him was losing the final challenge, he needed to win in order to make the final 2 and would have likely won the game. Should have double checked his posts and maybe he'd of won the challenge.
Earl, I came ready to write your name down to win this game, but then I read that you lied to everyone in this game, multiple times.. That threw me off. I never once lied to you, I was ready to go to the finals with you, and I though the feelings was mutual. After reading that you purposely self voted made me question your game play and loyalty. Tell me, what was your plan with me?
In my opening statement I said I lied to just about every person while You, Brenda, and I believe Sash were the only people I didn't lie to during the game. You were my #1 allie in the game and I wasn't about to start telling you lies and wanted to work with you until the very end. When I promised you final 2 and would never vote against you at the Spencer vote way back on Suetonius that was a legit deal where I meant it and wanted to be in the finals with you. I know how my opening statement came off as I'm a big liar but I was truthful with you all the time and since you were with me all the way it made completely no sense for me to ever go against you. Self voting on purpose may not have been the greatest idea, I knew you couldn't vote that tribal council from Danielle's prize and we were down 4-2 instead of 4-3 but I did try and do everything I could to keep you in but nothing seemed to work and thought that was my next best strategy for integrating back into the game with Tiberius for the following round. If you hold that against me I'm sorry.
Now this vote is going to be hard for me because I liked you both a lot, and both of your opening speeches makes me have a lot of thoughts about not wanting to vote you. So your last goal is convince me why I should vote for you.
I've been with you 100% since we met way back on Suetonius. I was going to the end with you if the choice was mine to make no doubt about it. I enjoyed getting to know you and thought we established a good bond with each other and made a great team. We got through quite a few votes together in this game and pulled off some nice moves like the Spencer vote which I feel changed this game completely. When you were targeted I did everything I could to try and keep you in the game from booting Dreamz to trying to flip someone to our side the round you left. You were my best allie in the game and if I couldn't win this game I'd have wanted you to win it.
I came into this game with very little connections to where I was solely on my own and had to essentially start from scratch. I didn't have any pre game alliances I could depend on and had to build my alliances up as the game moved along. I never won any individual immunity challenges in the game and still ended up making the final 2. It's not easy to go from tribal council to tribal council without immunity and make the very end. Shows that I played a strategic game and knew what moves to make and when to make them. In the merge I never had any votes cast against me from another player and I played the game from a lot of different angles to ensure I'd be in this position right now.
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Post by Courtney Yates on Feb 25, 2011 0:20:10 GMT -5
Earl I was never on Livy..
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Post by Chase Rice on Feb 25, 2011 5:11:09 GMT -5
I may not really agree with your final 5 plan Benry but as long as I'm still your final 2 I guess why not lol |
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Post by Ben "Benry" Henry on Feb 25, 2011 5:16:43 GMT -5
Like I said in my statement, I didn't know what you would want since we didn't reach that stage together, but I basically said what I would of wanted/tried to do  |
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Post by Earl Cole on Feb 25, 2011 9:15:33 GMT -5
My bad I meant Suetonius obv not Livy, fixed it.
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Post by Peter Harkey on Feb 25, 2011 15:08:41 GMT -5
Peter - He got voted out twice and likely needed a better overall strategy then what he was using. Yeah I probably should've altered my strategy. Being put on a tribe with 3 fake accounts who voted me out for no reason was a stupid strategic move I have no idea why I did that. Thank you for the insight Earl |
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Post by Chase Rice on Feb 25, 2011 17:24:21 GMT -5
Like I said in my statement, I didn't know what you would want since we didn't reach that stage together, but I basically said what I would of wanted/tried to do i know |
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Post by Earl Cole on Feb 26, 2011 1:16:26 GMT -5
Yeah I probably should've altered my strategy. Being put on a tribe with 3 fake accounts who voted me out for no reason was a stupid strategic move I have no idea why I did that. Thank you for the insight Earl There must be 3 fake accounts in the merge too right? Want to use that excuse for your second boot as well. |
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